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Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front
The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.03.27 05:04:00 -
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Marking botters would only lead to vigilantes hitting the report button again and again and again... no matter the character's actual in-game actions.
Once a botter always a botter.
Would turn the whole "3 strikes" concept which is centered around effecting a change in behavior ad absurdum. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front
The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:48:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:Well, imagine a suicide ganker squad warping up on 10 mackinaws. 9 are marked as having previously botted, 1 is not. If said gankers are really, as they often have said themselves, just killing the bots then their job is easy and they know which macks to go for and leave the innocent not botting pilot alone =)
yeah, that's exactly what I fear would happen.
Florestan Bronstein wrote:Marking botters would only lead to vigilantes hitting the report button again and again and again... no matter the character's actual in-game actions.
Once a botter always a botter.
Would turn the whole "3 strikes" concept which is centered around effecting a change in behavior ad absurdum.
you'd just gank any mackinaw that got a flag no matter whether its owner is still botting or not
If you want permaban on first strike then say that - but proposing to modify a policy that is designed to reform behavior in a way that would make reformed behavior completely unfeasible is stupid.
I don't think "I want first strike permabans but I think CCP won't give them to me so I try to get the same effect through the backdoor" is a good argument in favor of the flagging mechanic discussed in this thread. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front
The 99 Percent
477
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Posted - 2012.03.27 09:25:00 -
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The Snowman wrote:Nevermind about deterring botters, how about rewarding those people that DO report botters!
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if you are a snitch that likes to rat out his fellow players then you might qualify for the "plex for snitches" program
(sorry, I have no issue with people reporting bots but I think the name for the program is idiotic - who wants to be called a snitch?) |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front
The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:04:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:
3) CCP detects botting behaviour and bans EVERY SINGLE ACCOUNT associated with that player
CCP does not always success at this as evidenced by many posts on botting forums. They often seem to leave some accounts alone for reasons that even the botters themselves don't understand.
And of course serious botters try very hard to keep accounts separated.
once the isk has been converted into rl money the botter doesn't have to worry much about asset seizure anymore - as the post you replied to points out it is very much a race against the clock that CCP has to win. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front
The 99 Percent
486
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Posted - 2012.03.28 09:30:00 -
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Sin Pew wrote:Florestan Bronstein wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:
3) CCP detects botting behaviour and bans EVERY SINGLE ACCOUNT associated with that player
CCP does not always success at this as evidenced by many posts on botting forums. They often seem to leave some accounts alone for reasons that even the botters themselves don't understand. And of course serious botters try very hard to keep accounts separated. once the isk has been converted into rl money the botter doesn't have to worry much about asset seizure anymore - as the post you replied to points out it is very much a race against the clock that CCP has to win. Yeah, it's clear the Inquisition and the Holocaust are great examples to follow then. I'm sure Joan of Arc would love the idea.
I have already posted my opinion two times in this thread, not going to post it a third time.
As to your post - I'm not a religious person but I have great respect for the catholic church and that institution's ability to transfer its doctrine through the times. In my opinion the relentless fight against heresy - prominently starting with the Arians in the 3rd century and the Nestorian Schism in the 5th was absolutely crucial to the survival and success of a recognizable Christian creed.
The large number of protestant churches each with its own set of beliefs and more recently the pentecostal churches introduce an element of ambiguity and the notion of faith being based on personal preference (as opposed to one universal truth) which are highly dangerous to the role of Christianity as a common/uniting source of values and beliefs.
If you think I have an issue with the Inquisition you are wrong.
(yes, the case of Joan of Arc was an unfortunate and politically motivated one - but a retrial happened very soon after her death and she was cleared of all accusations of heresy. But when dealing with people with "visions" I generally approve of the stance that Dostoyevsky's Grand Inquisitor takes: it is sincerely regrettable but sometimes you have to do all the wrong things for the right reasons). |
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